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[svn] Added trn, xrn, knews info
author bears
date Sun, 14 May 2000 17:13:21 +0100
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4 1. NOFFLE Compatibility Notes
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6 1.1 General
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7 1.2 kexpress
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9 1.4 Netscape
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15 1.10 trn
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16 1.11 xrn
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17 1.12 knews
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19 2. Using Noffle as a Mail-News Gateway
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21 2.1 Create a local group
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22 2.2 Create a mail2news script
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23 2.3 Create an entry in .procmailrc
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28 1.NOFFLE Compatibility Notes
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29 ----------------------------
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32 1.1 General
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33 -----------
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35 Subscribing to groups in "full" mode should work with any news reader.
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39 Subscribing to groups in "overview" or "thread" mode requires more from the
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44 "marked for download" to the real body.
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47 mark them unwantedly for download.
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54 Please send me reports on your experiences. If a reader does not work at all,
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57 ./configure --enable-debug
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58 make
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59 make install
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61 Then you will see every NNTP command and status line in /var/log/news. Most
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62 interesting is the last line, before the reader (or NOFFLE) hangs :-)
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63 Please also send me a short mail, if you successfully used NOFFLE with a
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64 certain version of a news reader for a longer time, so that I can keep this
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65 list up-to-date.
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68 1.2 kexpress
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73 I found no way to disable caching, apart from writing a wrapper script, which
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74 removes all files from the cache after terminating kexpress:
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76 #!/bin/bash
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77 # kexpress wrapper, save as /usr/local/bin/kexpress
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79 /opt/kde/bin/kexpress $@
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80 rm $HOME/.kde/share/apps/kexpress/data/*
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88 Set "Options/NNTP Options/Connect on Startup,Connect without asking"
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93 # krn wrapper, save as /usr/local/bin/krn
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98 Articles can be marked as read/unread without opening with the middle mouse
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99 button. This version of krn is still unstable.
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107 No cache problems, netscape caches the article overviews, but not the
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108 bodies. It is best to use "Options/Show only Unread Messages" and to
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109 keep requested articles in unread state until their bodies are
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110 downloaded. For avoiding unwanted opening of articles one should first
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111 "Message/Mark Newsgroup read", then open the wanted articles one by
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112 one and mark them as unread again ("Message/Mark as Unread")
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113 immediately after opening.
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118 Same as with netscape 3.04, but automatically opens the first article
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119 of a listed group and marks it for download thereby. If this bothers
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120 you, choose "View/Hide message". This version of netscape still seems
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121 to be unstable for reading news.
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126 As with 4.0.5 "View/Show/Message" can be used to switch off automatic
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127 message display (and marking for download).
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130 1.5 pine
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135 Ok.
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138 1.6 slrn
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139 --------
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141 Version 0.9.5.2:
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143 Ok. You can change some keybindings, by saving the following script to
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144 ~/.slrn.sl and adding "interpret .slrn.sl" at the end of your
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145 ~/.slrnrc
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146
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147 % SLRN script for better interplay with NOFFLE news server.
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148 % Redefines some keys for opening articles without modifying flags.
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149 define my_article_linedn()
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150 {
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151 variable flags = get_header_flags();
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152 call ( "article_linedn" );
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153 set_header_flags( flags );
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154 }
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155 define my_scroll_dn()
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156 {
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157 variable flags = get_header_flags();
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158 call ( "scroll_dn" );
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159 set_header_flags( flags );
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160 }
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161 define my_hide_article()
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162 {
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163 variable flags = get_header_flags();
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164 call ( "hide_article" );
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165 set_header_flags( flags );
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166 }
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167 definekey( "my_article_linedn", "\r", "article" );
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168 definekey( "my_scroll_dn", " ", "article" );
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169 definekey( "my_hide_article", "h", "article" );
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172 1.7 tin
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173 -------
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175 Version tin pre:
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177 Call with "tin -r" or "rtin". 'K' marks articles/thread as read
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178 without opening them. '-' marks them as unread.
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181 1.8 Emacs Gnus
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184 Some versions of Gnus freeze up when retrieving active groups. Since
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185 NOFFLE's log files in DEBUG mode show nothing unusual, I believe that
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186 this is a bug in Gnus. Sometimes it helps to remove all ".newsrc" and
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187 similar files on ones home directory and restarting Gnus.
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188
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189 Here is a proposal for changing some key-bindings.
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190
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191 ;; Customising Gnus for use with the NOFFLE news server
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192 ;;
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193 ;; tick and open article
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194 ;; for reading/marking for download
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195 ;; scroll article text circular
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196 ;; for avoiding automatic opening of next article
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197 ;; mark article as read and go to next line
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198 (defun my-gnus-summary-tick-and-open(n)
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199 "Tick and open article, so that NOFFLE marks it for download"
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200 (interactive "p")
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201 (gnus-summary-scroll-up n)
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202 (gnus-summary-mark-article nil gnus-ticked-mark t)
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203 )
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204 (defun my-gnus-summary-next-page(n)
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205 "Next page of article, but do not open next article automatically"
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206 (interactive "p")
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207 (gnus-summary-next-page 10 t) ;; Call with argument `circular'.
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208 )
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209 (defun my-gnus-summary-mark-read-next-line(n)
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210 "Mark article as read and go to next line"
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211 (interactive "p")
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212 (gnus-summary-mark-article-as-read gnus-read-mark)
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213 (next-line n)
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214 )
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215 (defun my-gnus-summary-mode-hook ()
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216 (define-key gnus-summary-mode-map "\r"
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217 'my-gnus-summary-tick-and-open)
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218 (define-key gnus-summary-mode-map " "
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219 'my-gnus-summary-next-page)
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220 (define-key gnus-summary-mode-map "d"
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221 'my-gnus-summary-mark-read-next-line)
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222 )
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223 (add-hook 'gnus-summary-mode-hook 'my-gnus-summary-mode-hook)
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226 1.9 pan
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227 -------
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228
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229 Version 0.8.0beta5:
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231 Ok.
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234 1.10 trn
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235 --------
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236
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237 Version 3.6:
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238
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239 Ok. Use 'm' to mark an article unread. 'J' (junk) marks an entire thread
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240 as read without examining the rest of the articles in the thread.
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243 1.11 xrn
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244 --------
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245
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246 Version 9.01:
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247
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248 There does not appear to be away to stop the body of the first unread
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249 article in the group from being displayed. Otherwise Ok.
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252 1.12 knews
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253 ----------
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254
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255 Version 1.0b.0:
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256
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257 knews issues NEWNEWS with a non-compliant 7 digit date field (Y2K bug?).
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258 It will not see new newsgroups as they appear. knews also regards articles
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259 existing in a group when it joins as read, which makes it a bit tricky
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260 reading the subscription trigger message - try the 'All threads' button.
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261 Apart from that, it does not seem to cache article content other than the
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262 current article, and that is re-read if you click on it in the thread
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263 window.
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266 2. Using Noffle as a Mail-News Gateway
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267 --------------------------------------
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269 In combination with procmail, Noffle can be used to gateway all
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270 mails from a maillist to a local newsgroup.
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271 This is convenient for filtering out maillists from your personal emails.
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272 The local group is created without postings allowed,
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273 so mails to the maillist must be sent by email.
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274 This is not a big problem, since most newsreaders allow choosing between
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275 a reply and a followup.
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277 2.1 Create a local group
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280 Example:
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281
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282 noffle --create local.mail-lists.my-maillist-name
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283 noffle --modify post local.mail-lists.my-maillist-name n
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284
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285 2.2 Create a mail2news script
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287
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288 You need a program that reads an article from stdin and posts it to
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289 the local group. E.g. the following Python script will post an article
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290 read from stdin to the newsgroup given as the first argument:
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292 #!/usr/bin/python
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293 # Post article from stdin to noffle in group given as first argument.
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294 import StringIO, nntplib, os, sys
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295 if len(sys.argv) != 2: raise Exception("Need group as argument")
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296 grp = sys.argv[1]
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297 buf = StringIO.StringIO()
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298 buf.writelines("Newsgroups: " + grp + "\n")
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299 buf.write(sys.stdin.read())
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300 buf.seek(0)
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301 os.system("/usr/local/bin/noffle --modify post " + grp + " y")
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302 srv = nntplib.NNTP("localhost")
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303 srv.group(grp)
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304 srv.post(buf)
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305 srv.quit
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306 os.system("/usr/local/bin/noffle --modify post " + grp + " n")
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308 2.3 Create an entry in .procmailrc
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311 Add a procmail entry for recognizing mails from the maillist and
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312 posting it using mail2news.
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314 Example of a ~/.procmailrc:
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316 PATH=/bin:/usr/bin
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317 MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail
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318 LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/procmail.log
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320 :0
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321 * ^To.*my-maillist-name@lists.somewhere.org
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322 |/usr/local/bin/mail2news local.mail-lists.my-maillist-name