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81 | 6 1.1 General |
7 1.2 kexpress | |
8 1.3 krn | |
9 1.4 Netscape | |
10 1.5 pine | |
11 1.6 slrn | |
12 1.7 tin | |
13 1.8 Emacs Gnus | |
14 1.9 pan | |
15 1.10 trn | |
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22 2.2 Create a mail2news script |
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23 2.3 Create an entry in .procmailrc |
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29 ---------------------------- |
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33 ----------- |
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35 Subscribing to groups in "full" mode should work with any news reader. |
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36 Caching of articles is unnecessary, since NOFFLE already caches them and |
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39 Subscribing to groups in "overview" or "thread" mode requires more from the |
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44 "marked for download" to the real body. |
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47 mark them unwantedly for download. |
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51 especially with regards to subscribing to groups in "overview" or "thread" |
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52 mode. |
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54 Please send me reports on your experiences. If a reader does not work at all, |
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63 Please also send me a short mail, if you successfully used NOFFLE with a |
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235 -------- | |
236 | |
237 Version 3.6: | |
238 | |
239 Ok. Use 'm' to mark an article unread. 'J' (junk) marks an entire thread | |
240 as read without examining the rest of the articles in the thread. | |
241 | |
242 | |
243 1.11 xrn | |
244 -------- | |
245 | |
246 Version 9.01: | |
247 | |
248 There does not appear to be away to stop the body of the first unread | |
249 article in the group from being displayed. Otherwise Ok. | |
250 | |
251 | |
252 1.12 knews | |
253 ---------- | |
254 | |
255 Version 1.0b.0: | |
256 | |
257 knews issues NEWNEWS with a non-compliant 7 digit date field (Y2K bug?). | |
258 It will not see new newsgroups as they appear. knews also regards articles | |
259 existing in a group when it joins as read, which makes it a bit tricky | |
260 reading the subscription trigger message - try the 'All threads' button. | |
261 Apart from that, it does not seem to cache article content other than the | |
262 current article, and that is re-read if you click on it in the thread | |
263 window. | |
264 | |
265 | |
77 | 266 2. Using Noffle as a Mail-News Gateway |
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270 mails from a maillist to a local newsgroup. |
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271 This is convenient for filtering out maillists from your personal emails. |
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273 so mails to the maillist must be sent by email. | |
274 This is not a big problem, since most newsreaders allow choosing between | |
275 a reply and a followup. | |
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280 Example: |
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282 noffle --create local.mail-lists.my-maillist-name |
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283 noffle --modify post local.mail-lists.my-maillist-name n |
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285 2.2 Create a mail2news script |
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288 You need a program that reads an article from stdin and posts it to |
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289 the local group. E.g. the following Python script will post an article |
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290 read from stdin to the newsgroup given as the first argument: |
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292 #!/usr/bin/python |
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293 # Post article from stdin to noffle in group given as first argument. |
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294 import StringIO, nntplib, os, sys |
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295 if len(sys.argv) != 2: raise Exception("Need group as argument") |
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297 buf = StringIO.StringIO() |
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298 buf.writelines("Newsgroups: " + grp + "\n") |
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299 buf.write(sys.stdin.read()) |
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300 buf.seek(0) |
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301 os.system("/usr/local/bin/noffle --modify post " + grp + " y") |
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302 srv = nntplib.NNTP("localhost") |
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303 srv.group(grp) |
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304 srv.post(buf) |
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305 srv.quit |
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311 Add a procmail entry for recognizing mails from the maillist and |
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312 posting it using mail2news. |
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317 MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail |
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321 * ^To.*my-maillist-name@lists.somewhere.org |
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