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<h1>NOFFLE Compatibility Notes</h1>
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Subscribing to groups in "full" mode should work with any news reader.
Caching of articles is unnecessary, since NOFFLE already caches them
and should be switched off.
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Subscribing to groups in "overview" or "thread" mode requires more
from the news reader program:
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It must not cache articles at all (or allow to switch the cache off),
because the article bodies change from the pseudo article
"marked for download" to the real body.
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The reader should rarely open article bodies automatically,
because it will mark them unwantedly for download.
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Please send me reports on your experiences. If a reader does not work at
all, compile NOFFLE with the -DDEBUG option in CFLAGS. Then you will
see every NNTP command and status line in /var/log/news. Most interesting
is the last line, before the reader (or NOFFLE) hangs :-)
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Here comes a list with news readers that have been tested with NOFFLE,
especially with regards to subscribing to groups in "overview" or "thread"
mode.
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<h2>kexpress 0.2.0</h2>

I found no way to disable caching, apart from writing a
wrapper script, which removes all files from the cache after
terminating kexpress:
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      #!/bin/bash
      # kexpress wrapper, save as /usr/local/bin/kexpress

      /opt/kde/bin/kexpress $@
      rm $HOME/.kde/share/apps/kexpress/data/*
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<h2>krn 0.4.0</h2>

Set "Options/NNTP Options/Connect on Startup,Connect without asking"
and "Options/Expire options/Article bodies/Read=0,UnRead=0"
Sometimes the article bodies remain in the cache, the following
wrapper script helps:
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      #!/bin/bash
      # krn wrapper, save as /usr/local/bin/krn

      /opt/kde/bin/krn $@
      rm $HOME/.kde/share/apps/krn/cache/*
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Articles can be marked as read/unread without opening with the
middle mouse button.
This version of krn is still unstable.

<h2>netscape 3.04</h2>

No cache problems, netscape caches the article overviews, but not
the bodies.
It is best to use "Options/Show only Unread Messages" and to keep
requested articles in unread state until their bodies
are downloaded.
For avoiding unwanted opening of articles one should first
"Message/Mark Newsgroup read", then open the wanted articles
one by one and mark them as unread again ("Message/Mark as Unread")
immediately after opening.

<h2>netscape communicator 4.0.5</h2>

Same as with netscape 3.04, but automatically opens
the first article of a listed group and
marks it for download thereby. If this bothers you,
choose "View/Hide message".
This version of netscape still seems to be unstable for reading
news.

<h2>netscape communicator 4.5</h2>

As with 4.0.5 "View/Show/Message" can be used to switch off
automatic message display (and marking for download).

<h2>pine 3.96, 4.05</h2>

Ok.

<h2>slrn 0.9.5.2</h2>

Ok. You can change some keybindings, by saving the following
script to ~/.slrn.sl and adding "interpret .slrn.sl" at the end
of your ~/.slrnrc
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      % SLRN script for better interplay with NOFFLE news server.
      % Redefines some keys for opening articles without modifying flags.
      define my_article_linedn()
      {
          variable flags = get_header_flags();
          call ( "article_linedn" );
          set_header_flags( flags );
      }
      define my_scroll_dn()
      {
          variable flags = get_header_flags();
          call ( "scroll_dn" );
          set_header_flags( flags );
      }
      define my_hide_article()
      {
          variable flags = get_header_flags();
          call ( "hide_article" );
          set_header_flags( flags );
      }
      definekey( "my_article_linedn", "\r", "article" );
      definekey( "my_scroll_dn", " ", "article" );
      definekey( "my_hide_article", "h", "article" );
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<h2>tin pre</h2>

Call with "tin -r" or "rtin". 'K' marks articles/thread as
read without opening them. '-' marks them as unread.

<h2>Emacs Gnus</h2>

With newer versions of NOFFLE, Gnus freezes up when retrieving active
groups. Since NOFFLE's log files in DEBUG mode show nothing unusual,
I believe that this is a bug in Gnus. 
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Here is a proposal for changing some key-bindings.
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      ;; Customising Gnus for use with the NOFFLE news server
      ;; 
      ;; <return> tick and open article
      ;;          for reading/marking for download
      ;; <space>  scroll article text circular
      ;;          for avoiding automatic opening of next article
      ;; <d>      mark article as read and go to next line
      (defun my-gnus-summary-tick-and-open(n)
        "Tick and open article, so that NOFFLE marks it for download" 
        (interactive "p")
        (gnus-summary-scroll-up n)
        (gnus-summary-mark-article nil gnus-ticked-mark t)
        )
      (defun my-gnus-summary-next-page(n)
        "Next page of article, but do not open next article automatically"
        (interactive "p")
        (gnus-summary-next-page 10 t) ;; Call with argument `circular'.
        )
      (defun my-gnus-summary-mark-read-next-line(n)
        "Mark article as read and go to next line"
        (interactive "p")
        (gnus-summary-mark-article-as-read gnus-read-mark)
        (next-line n)
        )
      (defun my-gnus-summary-mode-hook ()
        (define-key gnus-summary-mode-map "\r"
          'my-gnus-summary-tick-and-open)
        (define-key gnus-summary-mode-map " "
          'my-gnus-summary-next-page)
        (define-key gnus-summary-mode-map "d"
          'my-gnus-summary-mark-read-next-line)
        )
      (add-hook 'gnus-summary-mode-hook 'my-gnus-summary-mode-hook)
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